This week’s guest is the very clever, Sam Yam (@samyam).

Sam is the co-founder of Patreon (@patreon), a membership platform that gets artists and creators paid.⁠ I used Patreon for many years when my podcast was in its infancy, and it’s because of Patreon that the show is still available today. When I begun in 2013, podcast ads weren’t as common as they are now and it was from the money earned via Patreon that I was about to pay my then show producer, and audio producer Andy Maher.

Enjoy the show.⁠  LISTEN HERE.